Originally posted by 2Bdecided Can I suggest some real classic hi-fi? I've never heard anyone say that the 1970s were a good time for audio, so I'm bemused by the discussion in this thread!
Originally posted by fewtch On the contrary, I can't think of any "bad" times for audio... provided the money flows freely .smg: The issue of 70's audio is more complicated than that, I think. For one, what was unaffordable to most in the 1970's can now be purchased far cheaper (well within the range of the 'average income') as used gear -- and what's unaffordable to most people in 90's or 2000's gear, remains unaffordable. So it isn't an entirely fair comparison, IMHO. Yes, I agree that the 'middle end' 70's stuff was a lot better than the junk being cranked out now, especially regarding build quality. As for sound quality, I'm not quite as sure -- sheer wattage doesn't equate to quality, and the human ear can only hear so much (as we all know from messing around with lossy compression).
Originally posted by smg Sorry just passionate about 70's Hi-Fi equipment
Originally posted by godzilla525 Just pictures, but no data. Oh well. It's gotta be better than the hybrid IC stuff they sell these days!
Originally posted by Cygnus X1 I have to agree with you guys here. . .70's components rock (so does the music!). My dad used to have an old Marantz amp that put out the warmest, fattest sound I have ever heard to this day. In comparison, my Yahama "natural sound" amp is colder than a witch's titties in a brass bra, even with LP's. Maybe being born in the 70's and having been exposed to analog equiptment for many years has predisposed me to prefer analog amps, though in my mind I know that digital should sound just as good. I'll tell you what, I wanna cry when I hear a buddy say "Man, I just got the sweetest stereo" and I go over to thier house only to find a 0 Aiwa plastic-ass piece of shit pumping out that wretched Eminem fellow. I guess good sound died around the same time good music did
Originally posted by gdougherty Just wanted to pipe in here as a recording engineer and say that while it's not necessarily a bad thing, stereo components that sound "warm" "fat" and "round" aren't necessarily honest either. The biggest inherent difference between IC and analog equipment is that analog distortion is not necessarily a bad sound, but IC does sound bad when driven into distortion.I'm not trying to root for 0 AIWA systems, my personal taste runs into the 00 range from brands like Rotel and B&K. I'm simply saying that modern digital equipment might sound cold and sterile playing Led Zeppelin's original recordings because 70's recordings were geared towards 70's equipment. I imagine there are a fair amount of modern recordings that would sound muddy and unclear on some older analog equipment.Just a thought,George
Originally posted by godzilla525 I did some digging around the house and came up with a Pioneer SX-535 Receiver. It needs fixed, though. One of the speaker outputs has some nasty DC voltage present. If it's a keeper, I might put forth the effort to fix it. Large power transformer and filter caps, but it only has a single pair of T0-220 output transistors per channel.
Originally posted by paranoos heh ok here's a small intro to ME before i start my post.as a note, Energy isn't really known worldwide... they are a Canadian company based here in Toronto... they are known to rival Bose speakers in size and quality... these speakers are quite small, but have a surprisingly large sound... I have heard demos of the system at the store, and I've read a review from an audiophile magazine that awarded it one of their Product of the Year awards.Comments?
Originally posted by Cygnus X1 I agree with my fellow 60's/70's rock fans. . .nothing beats the sound of some older amps. Here's a quiz for you fellow classic-rockers. . . .from where is my screename derived?
Originally posted by Cygnus X1 Here's a quiz for you fellow classic-rockers. . . .from where is my screename derived?
Originally posted by smg bryant beat me to it. So I say FAREWELL
Originally posted by bryant Haha! Well, I may have been first, but I was wrong. I thought that I had read that it had been determined that Cygnus X1 was actually a neutron star or some other boring thing (meaning that Stephen won the bet), but a quick web check indicated that a black hole is still the best guess. Maybe they will know for sure by 2112!
Originally posted by Cygnus X1 my Yahama "natural sound" amp is colder than a witch's titties in a brass bra,
Originally posted by smg The Sx 525 was a lower end model. They started to Rock with the sx1050 and higher model.... It will probably cost more to repair it then to acuire one of the more premier models. IMHO
Originally posted by godzilla525 Yes, It really isn't too spectacular, just 22 watts. I can easily do better than that with a few transistors, a good op-amp, and a couple of large batteries. (My 'Headphone Amp from Hell' that I have been making is coming along quite nicely...) The tuner in the old Pioneer might be decent, and I won't have to fix the power stage to have access to it. It would take more time than money to fix it, as it's probably just a blown transistor ( part) or something along those lines. The hard part is desoldering and removing each component, testing it, then soldering it back in. It shouldn't be too bad with this one, but I've seen other amps with pseudo-quadraphonic effects circuits executed entirely with discretes that had to set new records in component density. :eek:
Originally posted by layer3maniac I saw Rush in a little bitty movie theater in Austin Texas back in 1976. They played 2112 in it's entirety. Those really WERE the days... I still have my old Teac reel to reel and you guys would be AMAZED at how sweet it sounds.