Originally posted by gambito For making samples for distribution I use vorbis at 80 that gives me files averaging 75 to 85 kbps with superb quality (for that bitrate!)
Originally posted by gambito furthermore i'm not using the rc-2 on vorbis.com but the rc-2 on easy cd-da extractor that appears to sound better and his output almost equal to the august 30 build posted here:
Originally posted by h Sometimes I don't know whether to envy or pity a set of "golden ears" =)
Originally posted by Jon Ingram And that brings up a couple of interesting points...is it possible that improving the sound quality for them could actually reduce sound quality for the average person?
Secondly -- are all artifacts bad? Do any codecs actually produce artifacts which *improve* the quality of the sound?
Originally posted by Jon Ingram And that brings up a couple of interesting points.Firstly -- a lot of effort seems to be going into optimizing sound quality for 'golden ears'. Given that these people are by definition abnormal ( :-) ), is it possible that improving the sound quality for them could actually reduce sound quality for the average person?
I'm taking a close look at OGG 128 kbps. As long as the artifacts aren't too annoying, I can live with a _slight_ audible loss in quality. The main thing stopping me from switching to OGG is the lack of ID3v2 tags (which I use excessively ) and the "compatibility to friends".
Originally posted by Jon Ingram Well, RC2 Vorbis 128K is working perfectly well on 90% of the music I've thrown at it. The stuff that hasn't worked well has either been very echoey (Vorbis seems to muffle the sound) or has certain high pitched noises (which sound a bit 'crunchy'). Going to 160K solves all of these as far as *my* hearing is concerned.
I'm looking forward to RC3 -- particularly listening to the lower bitrates.
Why do you need ID3 tags, when Vorbis has a much simpler and more flexible tagging system? You can include as much meta-data as you want, naming the fields whatever you want.
Originally posted by huanjo The theory of evolution says that the best will always eventually come to the fore. Thats why I'm placing my bets on mpc.