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Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

Ripping to multiple files w/o cue sheet is easy, using EAC. Setup the right user defined external encoder and press Shift-F5.

Is there something like this when one wants to rip to a single flac-file for the whole album, and creating a cue sheet?

Right now, these are my steps:

1. Rip in EAC using Copy Image and Create CUE Sheet
2. Start flac frontend
3. Load the wav and cue created in step 1
4. Open cue sheet and change "wav" to "flac"
5. Move cue sheet and flac into the correct directory in my music collection
6. Load the cue sheet into foobar2000
7. Mark all tracks
8. Choose masstagger
9. Add Genre
10. Add Date
Done.

I've started to see the benifits with single files and cue sheets (printed some information from the HA Wiki on the subject and read on my commute back from work), and I just found out that foobar2000 makes correctly tagged Ogg's when transcoding from single flac-files as well. But if I have to go through 10 steps instead of 1 when ripping my cd's, I don't know if it's worth it. I don't doing this for backup purposes, and I don't have that many cd's with hidden information.

So, my question: Are my ten steps really the shortest route from CD to a correctly tagged flac with cue sheet? Or is there a shortcut I still haven't found?

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

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So, my question: Are my ten steps really the shortest route from CD to a correctly tagged flac with cue sheet? Or is there a shortcut I still haven't found?

I do two things differently:
  • I drag the .flac file into Foobar instead of the .cue. From a user-interface point of view, there's not much difference I guess, but I want my tags going into the .flac file and not the .cue file.
  • I use the foo_freedb plugin to tag the .flac file - it gets all the info I need in one swoop, and since it's coming from the same place EAC gets its info, my .cue should match my .flac perfectly.
It would be nice if there was a quicker way to do all this. But I think of it as just three steps, not ten:
  • Rip CD with EAC
  • Compress with FLAC front-end
  • Tag in Foobar

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

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I drag the .flac file into Foobar instead of the .cue. From a user-interface point of view, there's not much difference I guess, but I want my tags going into the .flac file and not the .cue file.

This means that you leave Add Tags unchecked in Flac Frontend?

What about ReplayGain, added from Flac Frontend or Foobar?

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

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This means that you leave Add Tags unchecked in Flac Frontend?

What about ReplayGain, added from Flac Frontend or Foobar?

Right, since I'm going to let foo_freedb do the tagging anyway I don't bother having the Flac frontend do it. ReplayGain I let Foobar do also - mainly because Foobar can do multiple CDs at once right before I go to bed. Also, though, I'm not sure whether the Flac frontend properly sets album and per-track RG in a whole-album .flac file. I guess I could try it and see - if it does it right it might make more sense to do it while compressing.

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

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This means that you leave Add Tags unchecked in Flac Frontend?

What about ReplayGain, added from Flac Frontend or Foobar?

Right, since I'm going to let foo_freedb do the tagging anyway I don't bother having the Flac frontend do it. ReplayGain I let Foobar do also - mainly because Foobar can do multiple CDs at once right before I go to bed. Also, though, I'm not sure whether the Flac frontend properly sets album and per-track RG in a whole-album .flac file. I guess I could try it and see - if it does it right it might make more sense to do it while compressing.

I've tried this EZ method, and got stuck on one point:

EAC->WAV -- ok
Make FLAC  -- ok
Tag album FLAC image file in FooBar -- **TROUBLE**

My problem: FooBar loads the tags, and says it tags the songs...

**BUT** they aren't actually stored in the flac image file for me!

This breaks everything that follows.

How can I get the tags to be properly stored?

thx,
pete

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

Reply #5 –
I wrote a little thread here it was the best way I could find.

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

Reply #6 –
For me, this is faster than using flac frontend: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....ndpost&p=126185

It doesn't require selecting the cue file separately, and just assumes that if the wav is called 'x.wav', then the cue is 'x.cue'.

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

Reply #7 –
Not yet totally done, but have been tracking down a LOT of answers.

To finish this thread:

FLAC files do *not* store a complete cue sheet. They only store the track positions. Thus, it is impossible to store the tags inside of a flac cd image file.

--pete

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

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Not yet totally done, but have been tracking down a LOT of answers.

To finish this thread:

FLAC files do *not* store a complete cue sheet. They only store the track positions. Thus, it is impossible to store the tags inside of a flac cd image file.

--pete

this thread isn't finished yet,

The only thing FLAC lacks is support for CD-Text in CUE sheets.

Nothing is not impossible, artist, track, number etc. can be added to the metadata.


http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....topic=17591&hl=

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....topic=17591&hl=

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

Reply #9 –
Single-file ripping is sooo unnecessary IMO. I have lost lots of time with it and at last I converted everything to multi-file (took a lot of time again). It's much better now. Not worth your time.

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

Reply #10 –
Interestingly, I'm doing just the opposite. I'm re-ripping all my discs as single files. I find they're much easier to deal with and the only disadvantage so far is that few programs support playing them directly from this format.
To each his(/her) own I guess.

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

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I'm re-ripping all my discs as single files.

I would appreciate if you could tell my how you have set up your process, to have accurate rips, correctly tagged in as less time as possible.

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

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I'm re-ripping all my discs as single files.

I would appreciate if you could tell my how you have set up your process, to have accurate rips, correctly tagged in as less time as possible.

I think this procedure still are the best/fastest to make single flac file album:
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(Soren @ Dec 9 2003, 07:13 AM)
1. Create your image + cue with EAC
2. Encode them with Speek frontend, inclide cuesheet and only tick verify
3. open the flac file into foobak2k
4. Make a FreeDB request to tag you flac file with track names
5. Select all the tracks
6. Apply replygain as an album
7. Go to the bathroom, make a coffee, return to your pc and tadam ! an album in one flac file, well tagged and replaygained (track & album)

hope it will help,
Soren
from: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....ndpost&p=161685

I think it's impossible to avoid a multi-step operation.....
"ONLY THOSE WHO ATTEMPT THE IMPOSSIBLE WILL ACHIEVE THE ABSURD"
        - Oceania Association of Autonomous Astronauts

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

Reply #13 –
I use EAC and Flac to make single file Flacs with CUE sheet in one hit. It's simple but has one little bug which creates a file extension .flac.flac  which I am sure will be simple to get over.
Set up Flac as your external encoder in EAC.
Set it to not make ID3 Tags.
Set your Flac string to be something like (this is best compression, smallest file and verified so takes a little longer):

best --replay-gain -V -T "title=%t" -T "artist=%a" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s

To make the rip and encode at once select from EAC toolbar:
Action\Copy Image & Creat CUE Sheet\Compression
The rest will be obvious.

If you solve the dual extension problem let me know.

Ooh.. you can set EAC up so you can rip WAVs manually during the day and then let it encode them to Flac (with cue sheet) all night, which is really handy
Just step sideways....

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

Reply #14 –
'scuse me... are we talking about single flac + cuesheet (= 2 files) or single flac with embedded cuesheet (= 1 file) here...? First thing is possible with EAC in one step. The second only in several steps I think, like the procedure described by Soren I refered to above; where the goal are a single flac file with embedded cuesheet, fully tagged and replaygained. One thing is that flac don't support tracknames in cuesheet block..... Well, meee bit confused 
(Ape with embedded cuesheet are easier, only two steps: Rip/code with EAC, then embedd cuesheet in tagfield %CUESHEET% with fb2k.)


EDIT: Seems mmortal03 might have found a workaround here:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....ndpost&p=186644
"ONLY THOSE WHO ATTEMPT THE IMPOSSIBLE WILL ACHIEVE THE ABSURD"
        - Oceania Association of Autonomous Astronauts

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

Reply #15 –
I've just re-read the original post in this thread and it does look to me that he is just asking how to produce one flac file and one cue file from one cd using EAC, which is what I have described.
However, I myself would like to know how you can embed the CUE information directly into the FLAC file....  IN ONE HIT!
Just step sideways....

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

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I use EAC and Flac to make single file Flacs with CUE sheet in one hit. It's simple but has one little bug which creates a file extension .flac.flac   which I am sure will be simple to get over.
Set up Flac as your external encoder in EAC.
Set it to not make ID3 Tags.
Set your Flac string to be something like (this is best compression, smallest file and verified so takes a little longer):

best --replay-gain -V -T "title=%t" -T "artist=%a" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s

To make the rip and encode at once select from EAC toolbar:
Action\Copy Image & Creat CUE Sheet\Compression
The rest will be obvious.

If you solve the dual extension problem let me know.

Ooh.. you can set EAC up so you can rip WAVs manually during the day and then let it encode them to Flac (with cue sheet) all night, which is really handy

I too thought this was the best method. Then I found a CD that simply cannot be ripped using this method. The CD is blink-182's "Dude Ranch." Track #5 simply will not play using the CUE sheet. I've tried it three times. I've tried remaking the CUE manually in EAC then editing it to work with the flac file, and it still won't work. Ripping to WAV, compressing separately, then using the CUE sheet works just fine. Try a bunch of your CD's and maybe you can find one that won't work, too.
-CyberInferno

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

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Ooh.. you can set EAC up so you can rip WAVs manually during the day and then let it encode them to Flac (with cue sheet) all night, which is really handy


This is what I'm looking for. How do you do that?

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

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Ooh.. you can set EAC up so you can rip WAVs manually during the day and then let it encode them to Flac (with cue sheet) all night, which is really handy


This is what I'm looking for. How do you do that?

Hi thoresson,

I think this is what you're looking for 

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http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....ost&p=175814][...]
Here is how to set it up:
EAC Main Menu -> Database -> Compression Queue Control Center
Check the "Make all compression tasks sleep" box
EAC Main Menu -> EAC -> EAC Options -> Tools Tab
Check the "On Extraction, start external compressors...."
Use "1" simultaneous extern compression thread (my preference only)
Restart EAC
[...]


Cya Ryushi

Easy way to rip cd's to single flac's with cue

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http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....amp;p=175814][...]
Here is how to set it up:
EAC Main Menu -> Database -> Compression Queue Control Center
Check the "Make all compression tasks sleep" box
EAC Main Menu -> EAC -> EAC Options -> Tools Tab
Check the "On Extraction, start external compressors...."
Use "1" simultaneous extern compression thread (my preference only)
Restart EAC
[...]


nope, that wouldn't work with my encoding string though to embed the cuesheets.  I have posted a workaround here [url="http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=18993&st=0 , that you could ALSO use along with that sleep option, though I don't know why you would want to, unless you have a really slow computer that you need to use during the day and FLAC encoding brings it to a halt.
WARNING:  Changing of advanced parameters might degrade sound quality.  Modify them only if you are expirienced in audio compression!