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It's Official - the New iPOD mini announced!
The Apple iPOD mini is official. As announced by Steve Jobs today at MacWorld.

See Apple's iPOD mini description page at:

http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/

Looks like a nice addition to the iPod family. Is smaller and has a 4GB compact hard drive...

Note: This one comes with a USB 2.0 cable for Windows users unlike some previous iPod models.

Audio formats supported: AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 (32 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible, AIFF (Mac only) and WAV

Here is a news story about the Apple iPod mini from News.com:
http://news.com.com/2100-1045-5135865.html?tag=nl
  • Last Edit: 06 January, 2004, 03:18:19 PM by guest0101

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Reply #1
Slick, but still too expensive for me. 

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Reply #2
Yeah, looks nice, but if they only priced it at $149 or so, that would have been a real portable MP3 player killer. Guess Apple likes to be in the high-end...

At least we have another AAC compatible player model on the market

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Reply #3
can someone borrow 250,- to me? ;-)

  • de Mon
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Reply #4
1. Expensive
2. Still no AAC HE support (Am I wrong?)
Ogg Vorbis for music and speech [q-2.0 - q6.0]
FLAC for recordings to be edited
Speex for speech

  • idioteque
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1. Expensive
2. Still no AAC HE support (Am I wrong?)

3. Battery still only lasts 8 hours

  • bidz
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Reply #6
Still too big, too heavy, too expensive and still suffers from a short battery time.

My NetMD MiniDisc has 51 hours (!) of playback time from the internal charge-able battery! It's lighter, it's smaller.. but transferring songs are a mess compared to MP3/AAC/WMA portable HDD/memory based players.
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Still too big, too heavy, too expensive and still suffers from a short battery time.

Couldn't agree more.  I unfortunately am stuck with my md player till something better comes out.  I would be willing to compromise about size a little and price but good battery life is a must like at least 24hrs IMO.  Heck, I don't need a huge hard drive on a player.  The mini iPod colours are very ugly also IMO, a nice white model would be preferable plus it looks way too rectangular.

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More than double the capacity of a Nitrus, for $30 more with 1/2 the claimed battery life. Seems okay, nothing to get too excited about. Dimensions are almost identical to the Nitrus, which sadly doesnt support Ogg Vorbis.

The Mac rumors sites had the price pegged at <$150 for a 1GB model, too bad they were wrong as usual.

  I personally would prefer the 10GB (or 15 or 20 or 30 or 40 or whatever, criminey!) model with it's larger dimensions, there is little value for me in a smaller capacity player unless it is cheaper.

edit: according to the Cnet article the Nitrus will be upgraded to 4GB come monday
  • Last Edit: 06 January, 2004, 06:26:14 PM by Audible!

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Reply #9
There is no longer a 10GB iPod; the $299 model is now 15GB.

Do you guys really listen to 24 hours of music before you come back to your computer? I've never had my iPod battery drain all the way. I just plug it in when I get back to my computer.

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Reply #10
I agree that Steve Jobs should read this thread and take the following 3 "action items" into strong consideration for the next model (revision) of the iPod mini:

1. HE-AAC support in addition to LC AAC support
2. Longer battery life (at least 12 hours, please) - preferably a user replaceable battery that can be changed if the original fails
3. Lower price around the $149 sweet-spot...

If you do this (Steve Jobs) I will likely buy one, and so will a lot of other audio enthusiasts. BTW, thanks for supporting AAC/MP4 Audio Steve!

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Do you guys really listen to 24 hours of music before you come back to your computer? I've never had my iPod battery drain all the way. I just plug it in when I get back to my computer.

I don't use a portable player only when i'm walking to the store, or doing something else "locally". I use it mainly when i'm travelling (which i do alot). 8hrs of playback time is, yes, WAY to little then, since i don't really know when/where i can charge the thing the next time.

My minidisc player is brilliant this way. It plays back around 50 honest hours of music. And i can clip on one external AA battery with the included battery clip, and get around 20hrs playback time out of that too, if i don't have the possibility to charge the internal battery right away.

I guess it depends on the usage. When i'm home, i have my car with a proper audio system installed. And i rarely just walk around for hours doing nothing
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Still too big, too heavy...

3.6 ounces.

How many ounces too heavy?

  • bidz
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Still too big, too heavy...

3.6 ounces.

How many ounces too heavy?

well, my MD weighs 1.9 (55 grams) ounces and has 51hrs playback.

The Ipod-Mini weighs 1.7 ounces more, and has 8hrs playback time, and is much bigger in size.

Such a big unit should have a MUCH bigger battery. The regular v3 ipod imho should have had 25+ hours of playback atleast, and the mini around 15-20hrs.

For my portable usage, 8hrs is just not acceptable (and this is 8hrs maximum, maybe 6hrs effectivly). Neither can i clip-on a single AA battery and gain approx. 20hrs of playback-time from this, and change this when its empty and repeat the process..

Also for such a big expensive unit, it should have had built-in radio. Come on, even most cellulars ship with built-in radio today.
  • Last Edit: 06 January, 2004, 08:08:47 PM by bidz
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Reply #14
The cheapest I found for a 4 GB compact flash card is U$ 1'250, a 1 GB compact flash card comes in around U$200.

How can you expect Apple to sell a portable music player for the previously rumoured U$ 150ish given the above? By only putting 512MB memory in it like everybody else? Seems to me the 4GB harddrive is a fairly good compromise - albeit the mere 8hrs battery life span is the price we pay for that.

I think the U$250 for 4GB looks exceptionally  good. Add to this the light weight (3.6 oz, roughly 115 grams) and AAC support...almost makes me sell my current iPod!
  • Last Edit: 06 January, 2004, 08:04:26 PM by Amadeus

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Reply #15
Still too expensive. They still can't deliver a product for $199 or less. Is that asking too much?

I won't spend $250, $300 or $400 for the latest trinket-of-the-year. No wonder Americans are shouldering so much debt.

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till too big, too heavy


according to www.ipodlounge.com it's only 0.5 thick and the size of a business card...

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Today Apple launch the second member of the iPod family - the iPod mini. This will have a

4GB HD storage capacity

Hold 1000 songs

0.5 inches thick

Size of a business card

Cost $249

  • rjamorim
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Reply #17
damn big business card :-X

You can check exact dimensions here:
http://www.apple.com/ipod/specs.html

Still, I believe it's the smallest audio player for the capacity, and that's enough credit for it IMO.
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damn big business card :-X

A standard business card is 2" x 3.5". Apple lists the iPod mini as 2" x 3.6". I doubt whether you'd actually notice the extra 1/10 inch when comparing the iPod mini to your business card(s). Depending on how your card(s) are cut, it's possible they're actually bigger. The more correct thing to say about the comparison is that it's a "damn thick business card."
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Do you guys really listen to 24 hours of music before you come back to your computer? I've never had my iPod battery drain all the way. I just plug it in when I get back to my computer.


The iPods have poor battery life, couple that with the iPod never switches off. For Christmas I fully charged the iPod and Rio Karma and went away, 5 days later I tried to play music on the iPod it loaded the first tune then complained about a flat battery (this is an iPod that has a new offical Apple battery replacement because the old one was 10x worse!!).

Now the Karma I have listened to maybe 3-4 hours of music since Christmas and still havn't charged it!

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Reply #20
iPod mini... how boring

I found this more exciting :

http://www.iriver.com/community/discussion...um&pre_idx=9750


An yes : there are still more players supporting Vorbis then AAC ...
FLAC --> MP3 (Lame 3.96.1: V5 --athaa-sensitivity 1)

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Reply #21
it's really beautiful,but i just got my new iPod. so,i have to wait

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iPod mini... how boring

I found this more exciting :

http://www.iriver.com/community/discussion...um&pre_idx=9750


An yes : there are still more players supporting Vorbis then AAC ...

i have to say that iriver cannot match iPod,it's true

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iPod mini... how boring

I found this more exciting :

http://www.iriver.com/community/discussion...um&pre_idx=9750


An yes : there are still more players supporting Vorbis then AAC ...

i have to say that iriver cannot match iPod,it's true

In what way? Never heard this statement before without any arguments...
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1. Expensive
2. Still no AAC HE support (Am I wrong?)

3. Battery still only lasts 8 hours


4. Still no gapless playback (worst of all)