Originally posted by fewtch And BTW (no flames please) in the area of video cards I'm dropping ATI like a red-hot coal & going to Matrox for my next card (2-D speed/IQ is really all I care about).
Originally posted by KikeG Aghh... Again ;-) , the Live! cards resample quite badly all 44.1 KHz data sent at them, even if you use the digital outputs!!! No matter what external DAC you use, the data feeding it is altered by the Live! card.
Originally posted by Frank Klemm It is a myth that Matrox produces fast 2D cards.Even 2D is very time consumpting. Renderingtechnical graphs an blitting them to the videocard is a pain for the G450/550 cards. AATI Radeon 8500LE takes 4% of the time(CPU load 3% vs. 76%). Even a i815 based graphic is much faster.
Originally posted by JonPike So, does most S/PDIF accept 48Khz.. and if one runs the card at 48, will you avoid resampling altogether? I know you can't do that with everything.....generated in the 10-20Khz range.. possibly resampling errors? I also noticed that creating the wav at 48Khz rather than 41.1Khz, caused it to dissapear.
And is the Audigy any better at this?Jon
Originally posted by KikeG But this is also true for cheaper cards like the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz.
Originally posted by MaTTeR I would certainly avoid Creative cards for any use. The biggest reason I've seen is the incompatability they have always displayed with sub-standard drivers.
I'll take a TB Santa Cruz, GFII or GFXP over an Audigy card any day. Not to mention I'd be saving quite a bit of money. Mentioning a Creative Sound Blaster product as a viable solution in the Hydrogen forums just seems a little strange in my mind:D
Originally posted by KikeG If you feed the card with a native 48 KHz sampled signal, you avoid the resampling, so the quality is better. But most music is at 44.1 KHz format (CD music), so in order to achieve that you should resample the data to 48 KHz with a good resampling software (such as Naoki Shibata's SSRC) before playing it with the Live card.The problem is that this is quite time-consuming, and not realtime. I guess that using SSRC source code, somebody could write a WinAmp plugin to do this in realtime, it should't be so difficult.
Originally posted by fewtch You want to see substandard drivers, take a look at the Win9x drivers for the Santa Cruz. Sorry to say it, but they really suck.
Viable solution to *what*? Certainly a Live! or Audigy (or even PCI128) is fine for casual music or movie listening with sub-0 PC speakers.
Originally posted by Tes An SSRC Winamp plugin sounds like a cool idea. Is anyone willing to give this a try?I would try to do it myself but by the time I finished I would probably already have upgraded to a better soundcard.
Originally posted by MaTTeR That very well could be but I wouldn't know since I've yet to see a Win9x system in a few years. I can vouch that the Win2k/XP M$ v4161 certified drivers are rock solid. In fact they are more solid than my GFII 1.50 drivers.
Originally posted by fewtch That could be, but the still-large installed base of Win9x machines is well documented. So why did Turtle Beach last release drivers in January of 2001... and unfortunately those old drivers don't get along with DirectX 8.x. That effectively excludes gamers who keep Win9x for compatibility reasons, and others who would prefer not to beta-test XP for Microsoft (i.e. are still waiting).
Originally posted by macdaddy What is the difference between vxd and wdm drivers? Is there an advantage to using one over the other? (win98se user)...