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Re: Winamp is opening its source code

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Winamp will remain the owner of the software and will decide on the innovations made in the official version"
I predict Winamp will boldly go nowhere. Way too little, way too late, imho. Kinda sad because I remember when Winamp was a godsend.

I'm using the refreshed Winamp now and thoroughly enjoying Milkdrop. To each their own!

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speaking of the small spectrum analyzer thing, isn't the frequency scaling used by this part in Winamp just a glorified Mel scale? I've recently recently made a Desmos graph about this

Re: Winamp is opening its source code

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Quote from: magicgoose on
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The encoder seems to be there as a MSVC library.
Could you share a link / path to the folder?

Seems the idiots in charge did some cleaning. The very initial commit (which I acquired), had a static FHG AAC encoder. Likewise for the MP3 decoder.
wow, interesting.
anyway, a little too late I guess, even ignoring the legality perspective, FDK is practically good enough for most use cases including Bluetooth; also for Bluetooth there's zero chance FHG would be (easily) used anyway in the timespan where it matters (and new BT codecs are eventually coming).
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Re: Winamp is opening its source code

Reply #29 –
Quote from: mudlord on
Here is the encoder: LOL
https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/blob/9c7f91496c56738fd707905f257643b792c05bb9/Src/Plugins/Encoder/enc_fhgaac/mp4FastAAClib.lib
Wonder how legal would it be to change the wrapper CLI encoder around the Winamp one to use this encoder directly.....
It's not the source code though is it?
What i see looks like a compiled code
Also: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/25f828a9d5764d4f4ee1027a18bc199c16f426a42dff95e34a60ffb15a7909fa/details
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Re: Winamp is opening its source code

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The owners of WinAmp have just deleted their entire repo one month after uploading the source code to GitHub. Lots of source code, and quite possibly, not all of it theirs. The deletion happened soon after The Register enquired about the seeming inclusion of Shoutcast DNAS code and some Microsoft and Intel codecs...
~ https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/16/opensourcing_of_winamp_goes_badly/
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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Reply #31 –
Still plenty of forks if people want it. I certainly do not. :P

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Reply #32 –
whoa, didn't expect that they'd just go and wash their hands of this whole "Winamp goes open source!" PR disaster. RIP.

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Quote from: marc2k3 on
Still plenty of forks if people want it. I certainly do not. :P

Same, I most certainly do not have the initial commit with all the proprietary encoders and things :)

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whoa, didn't expect that they'd just go and wash their hands of this whole "Winamp goes open source!" PR disaster. RIP.

Its not Nullsoft, so whats to be expected? Of course the current owners will wash their hands. At no point did they hire a copyright lawyer who knew how to code to vet the source code. Those sort of people especially in large organisations certainly exist.

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I don't understand why an old player like Winamp is so important. No one really needs the source codes. And people keep bringing it up as if it's so important. There are countless open source and closed source players. Just use one.

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I don't understand why an old player like Winamp is so important.
Because some of us here started out way back in the original Winamp community; it's simply our history. Indeed, I consider foobar2000 to be the evolved offspring of winamp.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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Correct. foobar2000 started as an answer to Winamp's....BS at the time. Why invest time in working on something when you can make your own from scratch to fix said problems?

Many things, if not *all* things I do is like that. I code because I know the powers that be either cannot be bothered to do it right, or cannot do it right either.

Quote from: genuine on
I don't understand why an old player like Winamp is so important. No one really needs the source codes.

History. Even if its full of jank.

Quote from: genuine on
There are countless open source and closed source players. Just use one.

Likewise can be said about many projects in software. The answer is still no. Every single bit of software, how jank it may be, has a time and place.

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I am not a bigot or fanatic about anything. If a software is good and works for me, I use it, if it is bad or useless, I don't use it. It's 2025 and the bar is much higher now.
Also, everyone agrees that Winamp was very successful for its time. Even now, it is at least much better than something like Foobar2000.

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Reply #39 –
Quote from: genuine on
Also, everyone agrees that Winamp was very successful for its time. Even now, it is at least much better than something like Foobar2000.
I mean, with one of your first posts you obviously make your first steps in trolling, so be it... but "better" depends heavily on the important individual aspects of the software. Converter (chains), file mover/renamer/tag editing in Winamp was/is not nearly as sophisticated as in fb2k.

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Reply #40 –
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I mean, with one of your first posts you obviously make your first steps in trolling, so be it... but "better" depends heavily on the important individual aspects of the software. Converter (chains), file mover/renamer/tag editing in Winamp was/is not nearly as sophisticated as in fb2k.
I have no intention of trolling. However, if you perceive opinions that seem different to you in this way, that's your problem. But we still have similar thoughts about Winamp and foobar2000. Unfortunately, I could never like foobar2000. Sorry.

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Reply #42 –
This topic is about Winamp being open source. Without going too far into the subject, I can only say that it is a matter of preference. I didn't say foobar2000 is terrible. I just said that there might be better solutions and that's why I don't prefer it.