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Re: foo_loudness_peakmeter

Reply #75
Is LRA integrated over whole track or short term?

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Reply #76
Could you add option/feature/new plugin to analyze selected tracks or whole media library offline (not only while track is playing) to see final integrated values like loudness/peaks/LRA/dynamic range and even whole graph for each selected track?
Ideally it could be a database with information about each analyzed track (like seekbar plugin) with ability to view it as a list and sort it by different columns or even query it.
porcus asked the same question a few weeks ago. Something like that is not planned. 


Re: foo_loudness_peakmeter

Reply #78
Hi Crossover, what about Mid/Side mode (where Mid is (L+R)/2 and Side is (L-R)/2 and same applies for each pair of surround channels, not just stereo)?

Re: foo_loudness_peakmeter

Reply #79
I would like to display Peakmeter Spectrum as in the attachment. Unfortunately I do not get the settings accordingly. Can someone help me with this?

Thanks in advance.

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Reply #80
I would like to display Peakmeter Spectrum as in the attachment. Unfortunately I do not get the settings accordingly. Can someone help me with this?

Thanks in advance.
Of course, you need two components (this and foo_enhanced_spectrum_analyzer) for this type of visualization

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Reply #81
Of course, you need two components (this and foo_enhanced_spectrum_analyzer) for this type of visualization

Correct. Both are also installed.

Re: foo_loudness_peakmeter

Reply #82
I would like to display Peakmeter Spectrum as in the attachment. Unfortunately I do not get the settings accordingly. Can someone help me with this?

Thanks in advance.
Sorry mexx, the peakmeter spectrum component is obsolete and no longer supported. Loudness peakmeter cant't be configured to look like the old peakmeter spectrum component.

Re: foo_loudness_peakmeter

Reply #83
Love this component, but there's one thing that's a bit annoying. When it's scrolling and it gets to the right end of the screen, it goes back to the other side again, but instead of starting at the far left of the screen, it starts about a third of the way along. Would it be possible to have it start again at the far left instead?

An option for an actual scrolling display, instead of stationary, would also be great.

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Reply #84
Love this component, but there's one thing that's a bit annoying. When it's scrolling and it gets to the right end of the screen, it goes back to the other side again, but instead of starting at the far left of the screen, it starts about a third of the way along. Would it be possible to have it start again at the far left instead?

An option for an actual scrolling display, instead of stationary, would also be great.
100% agree. Yes please.
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Re: foo_loudness_peakmeter

Reply #85
Love this component, but there's one thing that's a bit annoying. When it's scrolling and it gets to the right end of the screen, it goes back to the other side again, but instead of starting at the far left of the screen, it starts about a third of the way along. Would it be possible to have it start again at the far left instead?

An option for an actual scrolling display, instead of stationary, would also be great.
100% agree. Yes please.
Same with me, to be consistent with foobar2000's built-in spectrogram visualization.

Hi Crossover, what about Mid/Side mode (where Mid is (L+R)/2 and Side is (L-R)/2 and same applies for each pair of surround channels, not just stereo)?
Last time I've checked the foobar2000 SDK (especially the audio channels in audio chunk definitions, which is essential for developers like @Crossover to implement Mid/Side representation for foobar2000 visualizations), and there are 18 defined channels (which foobar2000 can support up to 17.1 surround sound I think, which is rare anyways), which is:
0 = FL: Front left
1 = FR: Front right
2 = FC: Front center
3 = LFE: Low frequency effects
4 = BL: Back left
5 = BR: Back right
6 = FCL: Front center left
7 = FCR: Front center right
8 = BC: Back center
9 = SL: Side left
10 = SR: Side right
11 = TC: Top center
12 = TFL: Top front left
13 = TFC: Top front center
14 = TFR: Top front right
15 = TBL: Top back left
16 = TBC: Top back center
17 = TBR: Top back right

So by following the M = (L+R)/2 and S = (L-R)/2 formula for each channel pairs (barring from centers and LFEs, and the first pair is Mid and the second pair is Side after M/S conversion), the following M/S conversions (note that there are no M/S version of channel no. 2, 3, 8, 11, 13, and 16 here because these wouldn't make sense to convert to M/S representation, therefore 12 channels in Mid/Side representation) would be like:
0 = FM: Front mid
1 = FS: Front side
4 = BM: Back mid
5 = BS: Back side
6 = FCM: Front center mid
7 = FCS: Front center side
9 = SM: Side mid
10 = SS: Side side
12 = TFM: Top front mid
14 = TFS: Top front side
15 = TBM: Top back mid
17 = TBS: Top back side



Re: foo_loudness_peakmeter

Reply #88
The Export Setting File is *.enhpm. The file extension is confusing, should be *.loudpm.
actually, I disagree, if anything it's missing the l from loudness...
.loudpm doesn't cover what it does.
my suggestion would be to just change it to .enhlpm
This reflects what it does...

@Crossover You might also want to change the name that's visible in the Visualizations submenu and caption if not embedded.
Shouldn't it read "Enhanced Loudness Peakmeter" since you did put the "enh" in the extension of the exported settings?
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Re: foo_loudness_peakmeter

Reply #89
Love this component, but there's one thing that's a bit annoying. When it's scrolling and it gets to the right end of the screen, it goes back to the other side again, but instead of starting at the far left of the screen, it starts about a third of the way along. Would it be possible to have it start again at the far left instead?

An option for an actual scrolling display, instead of stationary, would also be great.
OK, convinced. It's on the list.

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Reply #90
The Export Setting File is *.enhpm. The file extension is confusing, should be *.loudpm.
actually, I disagree, if anything it's missing the l from loudness...
.loudpm doesn't cover what it does.
my suggestion would be to just change it to .enhlpm
This reflects what it does...

@Crossover You might also want to change the name that's visible in the Visualizations submenu and caption if not embedded.
Shouldn't it read "Enhanced Loudness Peakmeter" since you did put the "enh" in the extension of the exported settings?
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The component was initially called Enhanced Peakmeter. After I added the loudness functionality, I renamed it to Loudness Peakmeter without changing the file extension of the settings files. So I think .loudpm would be correct. It's also on the list now.

Re: foo_loudness_peakmeter

Reply #91
Love this component, but there's one thing that's a bit annoying. When it's scrolling and it gets to the right end of the screen, it goes back to the other side again, but instead of starting at the far left of the screen, it starts about a third of the way along. Would it be possible to have it start again at the far left instead?

An option for an actual scrolling display, instead of stationary, would also be great.
OK, convinced. It's on the list.

Brilliant, thank you for considering it! The 'starting at the far left' thing would make it perfect for me.

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Reply #92
@Crossover, how is it possible that your component reports a higher true peak value than calculated in advance using the built-in Replaygain scanner with the True Peak option set to SoX Upsample x4?
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Re: foo_loudness_peakmeter

Reply #93
When not using "single spectrum" mode, I noticed that the top graph didn't react to right channel (when using the Stereo Balance effect that comes with Utility DSP Array component) but the bottom graph reacts to both channels as opposed to only reacting to right channel but not left channel

Also, the line (which is the momentary LUFS display over time) reacts to both channels on two graphs as opposed to have LUFS lines react to each channel on each graph (which is a FR to add an option to make LUFS line graph react differently to different channels on each graph as opposed to all channels when not using "single spectrum" mode)

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Reply #94
I have created a new component...

Is it possible to add the old, good RMS meter (according to IEC 61606:1997 / AES17-1998 standard - so called RMS+3) on the upper bar next to Peak and TruePeak readout?
It would be great to have an option to display ONLY the upper bar and hide all the graphs.

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Reply #95
This is very nice, thank you for the plugin!
Is it possible to attach the visualizer as another Tab along with the rest of the visualizers?

Re: foo_loudness_peakmeter

Reply #96
Yes of course it is, the same way you did the other tabs using Layout Editing Mode:



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Reply #98
I have created a new component...

Is it possible to add the old, good RMS meter (according to IEC 61606:1997 / AES17-1998 standard - so called RMS+3) on the upper bar next to Peak and TruePeak readout?
It would be great to have an option to display ONLY the upper bar and hide all the graphs.
Yeah, but I would like to see Peak/RMS bars as in foo_vis_spectrum_analyzer new peakmeter mode that display all channel levels, expand the already existing bar visualization to show all momentary, short-term, and integrated LUFS bars and also add the Mid/Side representations (which I think it could be useful to let me know there are phase issues that make these mixes not mono compatible)

Of course, displaying graphs should be optional as you said and new bars visualization should able to co-exist with the amplitude vs. time graph like the old Peakmeter Spectrum component

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Reply #99
been playing with this one again... didn't like it that much the first time I tried...
been reading up about the various lufs types and remembered this one showed some in real time.
Turns out it's only showing ~somewhat exact values if you've got no DSP active at all.
Any DSP that does something to the audio will skew the values one way or the other.