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Question about CUE sheets and WAV files

I'm sure this is a pretty easy to answer question, but my searches I guess didn't use quite the right wording to turn the results I was looking for.

Basically, I have a set of flac-encoded files which I have decoded into wav. The flac files also came with two cue sheets - one which has the tracks, and one which refers to a wav file called image.wav which I assume would be all the wav files combined together. From this single wav, the cue sheet then creates all the tracks on the CD with proper gaps and such.

My question is, how do I go about putting all the wavs back together again? I'm sure there are tools to combine wavs but I am weary of using one that will create an inaccurate output - certainly negating the purpose of going through the trouble of using something lossless in the first place! So is there a recommend application/method for doing this?

Thanks for any help in advance.

Question about CUE sheets and WAV files

Reply #1 –
Hmm... why not just use the CUE sheet with the separate? If both cues were made correctly, then the output should be exactly the same... Or is there any other reason why you would like to have one big WAV file?
In general, you are right to say that the image.wav contains all the tracks together, however it is not like it consists of all the wav files combined. Most likely, the cue sheet with the single file stems from another rip and not from the one out of which your FLACs were made.

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Question about CUE sheets and WAV files

Reply #2 –
You can use the "separate" cuesheet with the individual files, or the "single file" cuesheet with the combined files. If you want to go the latter route (for which the reason escapes me), you can use a utility like Addawav to combine the wave files.

Both methods should yield an identical burn.

Question about CUE sheets and WAV files

Reply #3 –
What will such an inaccurate output look like? 

You got a Cue referring to multiple wav-files (the decoded flac-files) - drop the cue-file on foobar and listen to the output - I think everything will be fine.
If that Cue-file refers to the flac-files, simply replace all .flac with .wav in Cue-file.

Otherwise join all wavs and give the new wav that image.wav-name or correct the Cue-file for its name.

Use burnatonce (wav or flac) or EAC (wav only) to write your CD (by Cue).

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Question about CUE sheets and WAV files

Reply #4 –
I have been wondering about this question too. EAC can split Image WAV files into tracks when cue sheet is available. But I don't know how to consolidate. I want to use such a tool because I am using Monkey's Audio and APL files to access individual tracks (I keep image files as a big APE file). I think it's a very nice way of handling track access and keeps the gaps intact.
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Question about CUE sheets and WAV files

Reply #5 –
Sorry, I probably should have mentioned this in my original post. The cue file I have with the individual tracks actually isn't being recognized as valid by CDRwin because all the tracks are... well, just have a look, I guess it's easier just to see:

Code: [Select]
PERFORMER "Name"
TITLE "Title"
FILE "File1.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Title"
    PERFORMER "Name"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "File2.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Title"
    PERFORMER "Name"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00


Because all the indexes are the same, it leads me to wonder if maybe this tracks cue sheet isn't just for the purpose of recombining them all back into the image.wav. I could be wrong though... but at any rate I can't burn this as-is. I guess it'd be pretty much the same thing if I just burned the wav files in sequence.

Question about CUE sheets and WAV files

Reply #6 –
That cuesheet looks 100% correct (all zero indexes). You can import it into EAC and burn a CD from individual files pointed to by the cuesheet. Only image cuesheets show index positions relative to the beginning of the disc.

Question about CUE sheets and WAV files

Reply #7 –
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That cuesheet looks 100% correct (all zero indexes). You can import it into EAC and burn a CD from individual files pointed to by the cuesheet. Only image cuesheets show index positions relative to the beginning of the disc.

Okay, thanks. Just now before I read this, I combined the files with addawav, burned to CD, and then extracted a track with EAC and compared it against the original wav and they're identical, so that's good. But if I can skip the combining part and just use the tracks cue, that's fine.

Thanks again everyone for all your help.

Question about CUE sheets and WAV files

Reply #8 –
My pleasure. I've never run into a problem burning discs with EAC, but there are some here who have issues with same. Your experiment is probably a good "touch and feel" experience to get you started with EAC cuesheet burning...

Question about CUE sheets and WAV files

Reply #9 –
Hmm, my brian doesn't want to give me the information I need now and I have no possibilities to compare any cues, but this could be a noncompliant cue-sheet done by EAC - if so you don't have to worry that CDRWin doesn't read this cue as it is noncompliant (or 'not compliant') to the CDRWin-standard (formally known as 'compliant'; the standard is given by goldenhawk itsself AFAIK).
Next to EAC, which is able to handle its own noncompliant cues of course, bao can handle noncompliant cues.

Whatever, there seems to be no 'INDEX 00' or 'Pregap' item (ok, I just have a look at 2 tracks), so there are no extra gaps in front of each file.
If there were gaps on the orig. CD they have been appended to the wavfiles (at the end of the wavfiles - otherwise it is stupid to leave out any Index 00 or pregap).

So you can use every app to burn your AudioCD, just set all 'pauses between tracks' to zero - all should be fine and should be as it has to be, I think.