To prefer form over function is just fetishism. To disguise this fetishism condescendingly as a superior experience is laughable. Vinyl is a joke.
In the internet there are a lot of forums for every imaginable fetish. I think the problem is not that you have a certain fetish, of what I couldn't care less, it's that I think this forum is more about science. I think Hoffman's forum, for example, will be much more sympathetic with your inclinations.
I don't quite agree. I love pulling a record from it's sleeve and sitting down to have a listen to it. It works for me in away that no digital format ever has (although I can have a similar experience with a CD). I listen to it. I don't browse the internet while it's playing, I'm not skipping tracks or playing a game.Where did I speak about the foibles of digital audio?
To prefer form over function is just fetishism.
Lots of fragile egos here now, who can't seem to handle an opinion gently opposed to their own.
I love how it's OK to infer that I'm angry and/or annoyed but not OK to infer, gently, that someone is being "such " a dense hypocrite.
I offer this opinion..
Right, a lot of vinylphiles also hold that "opinion". In fact, they tend to parrot it in every discussion like this, almost as if it were some sort of evidence based fact. It isn't.
Not even when it is self-fulfilling?
So, I started listening to a recording of Rachmaninoff 2 by Entremont and could not finish because of all the popping and noise. (And I like Entremont and the way he does Rachmaninoff.) Then I listened to another LP -- Symphony No. 5 by Shostakovitch. There was less popping and noise and it was passable. I managed to listen to the whole piece.
Quote from: Porcus on 29 November, 2017, 11:22:13 AMNot even when it is self-fulfilling?Nothing "self-fulfilling" about vinylphile parroted claims about ADD, playing games, skipping tracks and all that BS.They like vinyl because that's the "sound" they prefer, period. A lot of old timers do.
I don't know how classical fans coped in the vinyl era. Unless the record is mint, most dynamic classical music is unlistenable on vinyl.
I suggest you go back to what you quoted and read "effort [...] has a psychological effect". Nothing about sound in that.
Pretty much like how they coped with concerts and live audience? By trying to listen to the music and ignore annoyances?
I suggest you comprehend what is written, or get help from someone who can.
Why cannot I do what you did
I think the reasons for the percieved superiority of vinyl might lie elsewhere entirely: Crappy mastering for the CD release!There are examples where the CD release is based on an overcompressed, loudness-focused master, while the vinyl release is targeted at a different group of customers (namely those self-proclaimed audiophiles with real loudspeakers in a quiet living room) and thus the vinyl doesn't need the overcompression that's usually required for cheap, small headphones or car radios...