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DISCTOTAL tag being discarded for TOTALDISCS

I've mapped my "total discs" tag in the "advanced" -> "display" -> "properties dialog" -> "standard fields" setting to DISCTOTAL (as proposed for Vorbis tags by Xiph). However, this tag gets replaced by TOTALDISCS when anything reloads/updates the tags (even just by the built-in context menu -> tagging -> reload tags function). I thought this may have been a problem with foo_playback_custom (which is how I initially noticed the behavior, since it updates a PLAYCOUNT tag on track end), or some sort of caching bug. But even after a clean start followed directly by executing "reload tags" on a file, it still does the same thing. Now I've just checked a file in a hex editor, and I actually don't see the TOTALDISCS tag present anywhere. So it seems like it's replaced in some form of fb2k's parsed tags only.. ?



These are the only components I have installed:

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Core (2015-11-02 13:34:32 UTC)
    foobar2000 core 1.3.9
foo_ac3.dll (2013-02-28 02:21:29 UTC)
    AC3 decoder 0.9.7
foo_acm_packet_decoder.dll (2014-05-16 20:57:56 UTC)
    ACM Packet Decoder 0.0.1
foo_adpcm.dll (2015-02-23 21:33:35 UTC)
    kode's ADPCM decoders 1.11
foo_cdda.dll (2015-11-02 13:30:24 UTC)
    CD Audio Decoder 3.0
foo_converter.dll (2015-11-02 13:30:32 UTC)
    Converter 1.5
foo_dsp_effect.dll (2015-04-03 04:24:09 UTC)
    Effect DSP 0.16
foo_dsp_eq.dll (2015-11-02 13:30:52 UTC)
    Equalizer 1.0
foo_dsp_resampler.dll (2013-12-15 10:56:08 UTC)
    SoX Resampler 0.8.3
foo_dsp_std.dll (2015-11-02 13:30:38 UTC)
    Standard DSP Array 1.3.1
foo_dumb.dll (2015-11-15 01:14:08 UTC)
    DUMB module decoder 1.0.158
foo_fileops.dll (2015-11-02 13:30:04 UTC)
    File Operations 2.2.1
foo_flv.dll (2013-08-24 23:19:09 UTC)
    Flash Video Decoder 0.9.6
foo_gep.dll (2015-12-28 18:46:05 UTC)
    Game Emu Player 1.193
foo_input_amr.dll (2014-11-04 12:58:28 UTC)
    AMR 输入 1.1.1
foo_input_aodsf.dll (2013-02-28 02:22:24 UTC)
    DSF decoder / Audio Overload SDK 1.4.8u3 0.10
foo_input_caf.dll (2014-05-15 11:50:39 UTC)
    CAF Decoder 0.0.10
foo_input_dts.dll (2014-06-10 01:25:33 UTC)
    DTS decoder 0.3.3
foo_input_mdx.dll (2013-02-28 01:59:12 UTC)
    MDC input 1.0.1
    MDX input 1.1.0
foo_input_monkey.dll (2013-05-24 13:21:18 UTC)
    Monkey's Audio Decoder 2.1.7
foo_input_std.dll (2015-11-02 13:34:32 UTC)
    Standard Input Array 1.0
foo_input_tak.dll (2013-10-13 03:38:21 UTC)
    TAK Decoder 0.4.7
foo_input_tta.dll (2013-02-28 01:59:12 UTC)
    TTA Audio Decoder 3.0
foo_input_usf.dll (2015-05-31 14:47:58 UTC)
    LazyUSF 2.2.39
foo_input_vgmstream.dll (2015-10-13 14:23:26 UTC)
    vgmstream plugin r1050-32-gec99511
foo_midi.dll (2015-10-13 14:23:26 UTC)
    MIDI synthesizer host 1.247
foo_playback_custom.dll (2013-06-08 01:56:52 UTC)
    Playback Statistics Custom 1.5.1
foo_psf.dll (2015-10-13 14:23:26 UTC)
    AOPSF 2.1.9
foo_quicktag.dll (2013-06-08 01:01:34 UTC)
    Quick Tagger 1.0.3
foo_rgscan.dll (2015-11-02 13:31:02 UTC)
    ReplayGain Scanner 2.2.2
foo_skip.dll (2015-02-01 23:16:05 UTC)
    Skip Track 1.9.7
foo_texttools.dll (2013-02-28 01:59:12 UTC)
    Text Tools 1.0.5
foo_ui_std.dll (2015-11-02 13:34:32 UTC)
    Default User Interface 0.9.5
foo_unpack.dll (2015-11-02 13:30:38 UTC)
    ZIP/GZIP/RAR Reader 1.7.1
foo_verifier.dll (2014-09-30 22:35:38 UTC)
    File Integrity Verifier 1.1.2
foo_wave_seekbar.dll (2014-02-16 11:07:57 UTC)
    Waveform seekbar 0.2.45

foobar2000 v1.3.9 on XP SP3.

DISCTOTAL tag being discarded for TOTALDISCS

Reply #1
What foobar2000 calls some tag and what is written in the file are two different things. Generally foobar maps tag fields to proper values for all supported formats. Total discs for example goes to DISCTOTAL for formats that use Vorbis comment style tags. You should restore the tag display changes you have made in advanced preferences to prevent writing wrong info to all other formats.

DISCTOTAL tag being discarded for TOTALDISCS

Reply #2
Total discs for example goes to DISCTOTAL for formats that use Vorbis comment style tags.


But the tags are being written/parsed to TOTALDISCS, not DISCTOTAL as you say, and as I'd prefer myself.. ? I am testing FLAC files, so they are Vorbis tags.

DISCTOTAL tag being discarded for TOTALDISCS

Reply #3
You said yourself that a hex editor shows there is no TOTALDISCS. There is a setting that allows writing TOTALDISCS which was used by some ancient foobar2000 version, but by default foobar2000 writes DISCTOTAL. The setting in question:


The properties shows you TOTALDISCS because that is foobar's name for the field. It gives you a titleformat field TOTALDISCS so you can use that single name anywhere in your UI even though the real tag field could be called anything in the file you are playing.
If you use metaflac or hex editor to look inside your file you will see it says DISCTOTAL. Like this:

DISCTOTAL tag being discarded for TOTALDISCS

Reply #4
It looks like the OP has messed with standard fields set at Preference>Advanced>Display>Properties dialog>Standard fields. It should be reset to the default...

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Artist Name=ARTIST;Track Title=TITLE;Album Title=ALBUM;Date=DATE;Genre=GENRE;Composer=COMPOSER;Performer=PERFORMER;Album Artist=ALBUM ARTIST;Track Number=TRACKNUMBER;Total Tracks=TOTALTRACKS;Disc Number=DISCNUMBER;Total Discs=TOTALDISCS;Comment=COMMENT;

DISCTOTAL tag being discarded for TOTALDISCS

Reply #5
There are three layers for tag names here:
  • the name in the file,
  • the name used internally by foobar2000, and
  • the name displayed in the properties window.
The setting you have adjusted affects the conversion between 2 and 3. The conversion between 1 and 2 cannot be configured in general, at least not for the built-in file and tag formats.

DISCTOTAL tag being discarded for TOTALDISCS

Reply #6
You said yourself that a hex editor shows there is no TOTALDISCS.

Correct. DISCTOTAL is in the actual file however, but foobar2000 doesn't show it, and instead puts its value in TOTALDISCS (shown as <TOTALDISCS> in the properties window as you can see).

There is a setting that allows writing TOTALDISCS which was used by some ancient foobar2000 version, but by default foobar2000 writes DISCTOTAL.

Correct, and I checked that before I posted here, too - it's set to the first option, which maps to DISCTOTAL. And indeed, it does seem to write to DISCTOTAL - but the issue isn't the writing, it's the displaying/reading. Like I said in the OP, it shows as expected after I re-tag manually from the properties window and apply, but then, as soon as any other tag is updated or I reload the tags (right-click -> tagging -> reload tags), it puts the tag in a "virtual" TOTALDISCS tag and discards the "binary" DISCTOTAL tag, as you can see in the screenshot. I'd like it to parse DISCTOTAL as the tag for "total discs" everywhere.

The properties shows you TOTALDISCS because that is foobar's name for the field. It gives you a titleformat field TOTALDISCS so you can use that single name anywhere in your UI even though the real tag field could be called anything in the file you are playing.

Hmm okay. How do I know what "binary" tag fb2k will use? Is there any way to configure it for sure? I thought the properties setting was sort of global despite the name of the setting. I never noticed any oddities like this before, but I guess I might've gotten in wrong.


EDIT: I guess foosion answered that last question. Hmm, well, that's too bad.

 
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