Bass Traps and Other Treatments: Why so frequently assumed necessary? Reply #250 – 2015-11-26 15:47:07 Quote from: bobbaker on 2015-11-26 14:32:05Where is your "relevant stuff”?Unfortunately it will be incomprehensible to you/your ilk, but here it is.For perhaps something you might comprehend.Quote from: bobbaker on 2015-11-26 14:32:05I already said I’m agnostic on Winer’s claims. QuoteThis article is meant mainly as a rebuttal to those who believe that early reflections enhance sound quality in a typical home-sized listening room.Some audiophiles believe that reflections in a listening room enhance spaciousness....played back in a small untreated room, the strong early reflections drown out the larger sounding reverb in the recording. This makes the music sound smaller and narrower, not larger and wider. One common myth is that rooms used mainly for playing stereo music should be treated differently, and less, than home theater rooms.The value of absorbers at reflection points is standard for professional listeners, and should likewise be the goal for an audiophile or home theater enthusiast who wants a listening environment as excellent as a million dollar control room. Anything less and you won't experience the same clarity and quality as the mix engineers heard when creating the music or movie soundtrack.Stereo creates a virtual center channel, so for someone sitting in the middle there's no real difference between having a center speaker or not.As far as I know Dr. Toole is not a recording engineer, and he hasn't mixed music professionally if at all. I don't think he's a musician either, so that probably affect his opinions. Floyd's statements about early reflections defy my own personal experience, and the experience of almost every other audio engineer I know. Floyd claims that early reflections increase clarity, and cites research that proves "people" prefer the sound of music with early reflections present. But of those tested, how many were experienced listeners and how many were regular folk with no particular interest in audio and music? If the tests included "civilians" who don't listen for a living or even as a hobby, it's difficult to accept the results. Please don’t label me “believer”Uh huh, sure thing Bob. Quote from: bobbaker on 2015-11-26 14:32:05I agree that the switching time need not be super-fast. I would argue it depends on the level of processing, from sensory to perceptual to cognitive, of the sound.Great, so now all we need is "some relevant stuff" from Bob, for: Bass Traps and Other Treatments: Why so frequently assumed necessary?Got milk?