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I need Help! WMA? MP3? APE?

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I've played around with this a bit now with some 20+ minute songs, and yeah, it doesn't seek all that well.

Following on from westgroveg and den, does this *really* matter? 

:You hadnt even noticed until someone had told you
:I honestly cant see how the short delay, in the grand scheme of things, is that bad.
:IMO, if a song is 20minutes long, you shouldnt be skipping half of it, and missing the 'philosophy' behind it.

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Reply #26 –
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@Indybrett - If poor seeking is your only concern, and you are happy with your current file sizes, I'd stick with mpc.


I agree, once SV8 is released you can losslessly convert your SV7 files which will fix the seeking issue (1700+XP via Winamp my SV7 files seek fine.).

Could anyone please stop telling people SV8 will do this, SV8 will do that, SV8 will cure cancer..
IMHO SV8 shouldn't be mencioned until it has been released because:

- It creates false expectations in people
- All we really know about SV8 is FUD and a 4 month old unstable alpha.
- There's no set release date for SV8.

That's not to say we don't appreciate all the hard work Frank is doing (we think) in SV8, and that it is a major source rewrite but we shouldn't live on hopes and expectations, or wait an indefinite period of time for something better to be done (if it is at all), and that IMHO is wrong to tell people to wait for something that could or could not be released sometime 'when it's ready'.

BTW
Seeking is horribly slow on older machines (like the old 200MHz laptop I set up as a Jukebox) so if you've got issues with it, you'd better stick to other formats.

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I need Help! WMA? MP3? APE?

Reply #27 –
About seeking :

When I began to encode properly my CD's (in --dm-preset era), I discovered the gap problem. Therefore, I ripped all my CD's in one big file, and played with cue sheet and mp3cue plugin for winamp (according to r3mix.net recipe). I was bloody annoyed by the approximation of the seeking point with VBR encodings : near 3-4 seconds for a 75 minutes disc. When I wanted to listen for exemple, to the third movement of a Mahler Symphony, I had to correct the seeking point manually in the cuesheet, or to back/forward in the player after seeking. Really annoying... So annoying that I was convinced to try another audioformat : musepack
With musepack, the most shocking difference with encoding speed was the seeking behavior : not instantaneous anymore. Nevertheless, after few days, I got accustom to it. The most interesting thing I noticed (before I understood that cue sheets were useless with mpc) is that the seeking point was reached, precisely.

Therefore, I'm not agree when people are saying that mpc isn't precise at seeking : it's not fast, that's all. But mp3 VBR isn't precise,  and it's especially noticable with long track.
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I need Help! WMA? MP3? APE?

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Therefore, I'm not agree when people are saying that mpc isn't precise at seeking

I don't think anybody said it was unprecise, I just said it couldn't, which apparantly isn't quite true (sorry, today is the first day I've played with MusePack, previously I've been using AAC).  Obviously with MPC's ridiculusly fast decoding speed, this isn't really a problem.  As such, I've decided to re-rip (agian) my CD's to MPC instead of AAC.  Clearly, most people around here believe MPC provides signifficant;y better audio quality, at medium-high bitrates (160-192) than any other codec, so I see no reason why this wouldn't be a good choice to encode your albums in.