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Need Encoding Help
Hello,i would like to know what would be the best music format and its settings to encode my files to play on my mobile device which is a Nokia 5130 Xpress Music(supports : MP4, AAC, MP3, WMA, AAC+, AMR-WB, HE AAC V1, HE AAC V2, Mobile XMF, True tones, SP-MIDI, AMR)
I would like to use the best encoder by preference

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Reply #1
use QAAC and find a bitrate you are happy with.
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Reply #2
use QAAC and find a bitrate you are happy with.


What settings should i use ?
sample rate,bit rate & depth,etc
i would like the highest quality and can u please tell me the command line code for it,i will be really grateful

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Reply #4
-v320 --quality 2 --rate keep --ignorelength - -o %d [CVBR resulting @ 320+ bitrate]

-s -V 127 -q 2 --ignorelength - -o %d [TVBR resulting @ 256 bitrate]

Sample Rate :48 khz[or 44.1 khz better?]
Bits per Sample :32

if I am missing something in the command lines please tell me
  • Last Edit: 20 February, 2014, 03:52:17 AM by frostraven13

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Reply #5
Winamp has an aac encoder built in, which is GUI oriented and much easier to implement.

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-v320 --quality 2 --rate keep --ignorelength - -o %d [CVBR resulting @ 320+ bitrate]

-s -V 127 -q 2 --ignorelength - -o %d [TVBR resulting @ 256 bitrate]

Sample Rate :48 khz[or 44.1 khz better?]
Bits per Sample :32

if I am missing something in the command lines please tell me

Did you open those two links I gave you?

--quality 2 is unnecessary, 2 is set by default. I remember nu774 said --ignorelength was set by default as well. --rate keep is unnecessary as well, why would the encoder change it if you don't tell it otherwise?

-v320 doesn't give 320+ but ~320 kbps.

-V127 doesn't give ~256 kbps but ~320 kbps. See table:

Q0 - Q4 (0) = ~40 kbps
Q5 - Q13 (9) = ~45 kbps
Q14 - Q22 (18) = ~75 kbps
Q23 - Q31 (27) = ~80 kbps
Q32 - Q40 (36) = ~95 kbps
Q41 - Q49 (45) = ~105 kbps
Q50 - Q58 (54) = ~115 kbps
Q59 - Q68 (63) = ~135 kbps
Q69 - Q77 (73) = ~150 kbps
Q78 - Q86 (82) = ~165 kbps
Q87 - Q95 (91) = ~195 kbps
Q96 - Q104 (100) = ~225 kbps
Q105 - Q113 (109) = ~255 kbps
Q114 - Q122 (118) = ~285 kbps
Q123 - Q127 (127) = ~320 kbps

The highest AAC setting is -c529 which gives you CBR 529 kbps.

I suggest you to ABX, AAC is absolutely wonderful even at ~96 kbps. I, for example use -V63 (~135 kbps) for portable use.
  • Last Edit: 20 February, 2014, 11:21:07 AM by eahm

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Reply #7
-v320 --quality 2 --rate keep --ignorelength - -o %d [CVBR resulting @ 320+ bitrate]

-s -V 127 -q 2 --ignorelength - -o %d [TVBR resulting @ 256 bitrate]

Sample Rate :48 khz[or 44.1 khz better?]
Bits per Sample :32

if I am missing something in the command lines please tell me

Did you open those two links I gave you?

--quality 2 is unnecessary, 2 is set by default. I remember nu774 said --ignorelength was set by default as well. --rate keep is unnecessary as well, why would the encoder change it if you don't tell it otherwise?

-v320 doesn't give 320+ but ~320 kbps.

-V127 doesn't give ~256 kbps but ~320 kbps. See table:

Q0 - Q4 (0) = ~40 kbps
Q5 - Q13 (9) = ~45 kbps
Q14 - Q22 (18) = ~75 kbps
Q23 - Q31 (27) = ~80 kbps
Q32 - Q40 (36) = ~95 kbps
Q41 - Q49 (45) = ~105 kbps
Q50 - Q58 (54) = ~115 kbps
Q59 - Q68 (63) = ~135 kbps
Q69 - Q77 (73) = ~150 kbps
Q78 - Q86 (82) = ~165 kbps
Q87 - Q95 (91) = ~195 kbps
Q96 - Q104 (100) = ~225 kbps
Q105 - Q113 (109) = ~255 kbps
Q114 - Q122 (118) = ~285 kbps
Q123 - Q127 (127) = ~320 kbps

The highest AAC setting is -c529 which gives you CBR 529 kbps.

I suggest you to ABX, AAC is absolutely wonderful even at ~96 kbps. I, for example use -V63 (~135 kbps) for portable use.


Its written ~256 kbps in dbpoweramp properties and when being played in foobar,the bitrate vary inbetween 256 and 320 and not around 320(i.e above and below 320)
  • Last Edit: 20 February, 2014, 08:22:55 PM by frostraven13

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Reply #8
Its written ~256 kbps in dbpoweramp properties and when being played in foobar,the bitrate vary inbetween 256 and 320 and not around 320(i.e above and below 320)

That's how True VBR works? If the track is all silent the result bit rate could be around 10 kbps, it doesn't change the fact that -V127 tries to keep a full track to around 320 kbps. I don't know the technical details of AAC because I am not a developer, I am sure someone will explain better.
  • Last Edit: 20 February, 2014, 09:29:27 PM by eahm

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Reply #9
I'm using the TVBR one because i find it better than the CVBR when i'm listening songs(metal,progressive) on earphones
Thanks a lots for the settings