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How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Hi,
  I just bought a new Pink Floyd DSoTM SACD. How should I rip it using EAC and LAME? Please help.

How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #1 –
As long as your SACD isn't recorded as a hybrid SACD that contains the SACD data (DSD) and "normal" PCM data in two different layers, there is no other option than recording through your analog inputs and burning to CDR afterwards (or encode with LAME or whichever encoder you might chose) ...
The name was Plex The Ripper, not Jack The Ripper

How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #2 –
this is going  to suck, although i guess these new CDs sound awesome, ripping is going to be no fun, unless someone finds a way to crack it like DVDs
Chaintech AV-710

How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #3 –
I do not think SACD will be cracked because Philips/Sony will not release SACD-equipment for computers.

After reading the document of SACD content protection I really wonder if a SACD will ever be digitally rippable/copyable.

I am not sure if it is possible to backup a SACD via the analog way at all? Did not tried yet.....

Check this document about SACD content protection from Philips; it's interesting:

http://www.superaudiocd.philips.com/Assets...ontent-2167.pdf

How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #4 –
The only digital way to copy SACD is to use a SACD Player
that converts the digital DSD stream to PCM to be usable
with existing DACs. You can record this stream via S/PDIF.
If i remember right there are DAC chips that offer 24/96 PCM
output of the DSD data.

Wombat
Is troll-adiposity coming from feederism?
With 24bit music you can listen to silence much louder!

How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #5 –
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I am not sure if it is possible to backup a SACD via the analog way at all? Did not tried yet.....

Why wouldn't it be possible to record from analog output?
I gues the good old 'If I can listen to it I can record it' applies here.
Notice that this does not mean that this  yields better quality compared to a normal CDDA 44.1/16 secure digital copy.

How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #6 –
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The only digital way to copy SACD is to use a SACD Player
that converts the digital DSD stream to PCM to be usable
with existing DACs. You can record this stream via S/PDIF.
If i remember right there are DAC chips that offer 24/96 PCM
output of the DSD data.

Wombat

I was under the impression that no SACD players will be shipping with S/PDIF outputs, only analog ones.

How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #7 –
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I was under the impression that no SACD players will be shipping with S/PDIF outputs, only analog ones.

Damn it. It sucks so much. Why do we people need a digital medium that can't be played back though a digital out? What will be next - SVD - Super Vinyl Disc???
Yeah, why not. Let's go back to vinyl or MC's because they're not loselessly copyable - this is called copy protection! Even better: they degradate with usage so we will need to buy them again and again and... Maybe SACD 2 will even also loose quality over the time. That would be a REAL progress 
But enough my BS's and wild speculations 

[span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%']Edit: corrected some misspellings - I shouldn't write posts when I'm so angry. grrrrrr SACD = Shitty Audio Compact Disc[/span]
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How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #8 –
Ups, sorry!

Seems like Jebus is right! There are DVD-A, SACD players
that output the DVD-Audio up to 24/96 but none of them
is downstreaming the SACD data. Only Professional so called
Audio Workstations do.

I wonder where i got the idea of SACD PCM out!?

It would need to add a chip like this to get PCM from DSD
http://www.npcamerica.com/SM5619AF%20PR.htm

Wombat
Is troll-adiposity coming from feederism?
With 24bit music you can listen to silence much louder!

How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #9 –
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I am not sure if it is possible to backup a SACD via the analog way at all? Did not tried yet.....

Why wouldn't it be possible to record from analog output?
I gues the good old 'If I can listen to it I can record it' applies here.
Notice that this does not mean that this  yields better quality compared to a normal CDDA 44.1/16 secure digital copy.


So I think the question remains what is the best way to backup a sacd via the analog method ? (ofcourse only for private use).

Is it possible to hook up a sacd player directly on a sb live/audigy card ?
Is there any faq/guide how to do this....? because a sacd player has a 5.1ch Analog Audio Output ???

How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #10 –
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I was under the impression that no SACD players will be shipping with S/PDIF outputs, only analog ones.

If i remember correctly, i hawe seen SACD player with S/PDIF output. Altho it was downsampled to 44,1kHz and 16bit. But i could remember wrong.

How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #11 –
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I was under the impression that no SACD players will be shipping with S/PDIF outputs, only analog ones.

Damn it. It sucks so much. Why do we people need a digital medium that can't be played back though a digital out?

I believe that SACD is a different type of digital than PCM. Therefore, even if you did have a digital out it would not be the same standard as current PCM digital outs and you would need a special SACD bitstream digital in to copy it. Since no such product exists for the computer you cannot copy the SACD data onto your computer. Even if you did, LAME could not compress it.

The way to backup a SACD is only the good-old analog way. Welcome back mix tapes!

For those of you who complain, it is not as if we could make perfect backups of vinyl or tape. If you don't like SACD, don't buy it! It probably won't get off the ground anyway.

Destron

How do I rip an SACD using LAME & EAC

Reply #12 –
Dual-layer SACDs (such as Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon or any of the new Rolling Stones reissues on ABKCO) are backwards-compatible with standard audio CD players; you should already be able to access the CD-audio layer via EAC with one of your existing drives. To access the SACD layer, you would (at this point) need to use analog extraction.

    - M.