I have thought about that also. Hopefully some good answers.I've been collecting a lot of flat CD's from the early to mid 80's Made in Japan for US or EU, Targets, etc. to practice my hobby of mastering songs for good or bad.
In the early 80's when CD's were being made...they'd do a flat transfer to the CD. Take the tapes or copies of tapes and transfer to the CD. To most people they sounded horrible. Hence the name: flat. No pop or boom.Some go for serious money on Ebay--the more rare titles and hard to get. This guy, Keith Hirsch, has a great website for IDing a lot of CD's. You might even find your answer in there.http://www.keithhirsch.com/target-cdsFrom his site:Target CDs are collectibles since many of them are the original issues and are, therefore, remnants of the early days of the “Compact Digital Disc”. Aside from the historical significance, many music enthusiasts also feel that these early pressings offer superior fidelity to later remasters. The reason for this is that many Target CDs represent a “flat transfer” of the tapes used. By contrast, many recent remasters have been prepared through excessive processing, including the abuse of compression and noise reduction.
That means the original masters -- and CDs made from them -- may well have more 'pop and boom' than the first CD versions...and that sound was only finally available on CD when the OMTs were used as a source.
Re: apostrophe 'abuse', please see the Wikipedia article on quotation marks. "Double quotes are preferred in the United States, and also tend to be preferred in Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Single quotes are more usual in the United Kingdom and South Africa, though double quotes are also common there." Whether you regard the ' as a multipurpose glyph or as strictly an apostrophe is a personal choice.
Quote from: krabapple on 16 May, 2013, 02:47:38 PMThat means the original masters -- and CDs made from them -- may well have more 'pop and boom' than the first CD versions...and that sound was only finally available on CD when the OMTs were used as a source.This causes me to revisit the issue we discussed a while back about the common assumption (myth?) that MFSL employs smiley-faced EQ.
I removed the 'nope' from the original post because it was directed mainly at the 'flat' part. But sorry, this post too is full of not-quite-rightness. A 'flat transfer' can be from a tape that has plenty of 'pop' and 'boom' EQ'd in. Or from one where bass and treble were attenuated compared to the original mixdown master -- as was often the case of vinyl production tapes, due to the limitations of typical vinyl playback. That means the original masters -- and CDs made from them -- may well have more 'pop and boom' than the first CD versions...and that sound was only finally available on CD when the OMTs were used as a source. This is something that Target CD/'flat transfer' fetishists like the site you linked to, don't seem to grasp fully. 'Flat transfer' in fact says nothing about the 'audio quality'. And yes, this is a more fact-based place to discuss digital music than those other two sites.As for what is 'sent out' to the mastering facility -- if we're talking about analog sources, neither you nor I knows for sure, but I suspect OMTs (or digitized flat transfers of them) are 'sent out' far, far more often than they were in the early days of CD.
Impossible to know for sure unless we have at hand a bona-fide 'flat transfer' of the tapes that MFSL used, for comparison.
When sees "remastered" on a disc does that always mean that it's from the original mix tapes?