What is it you're trying to accomplish?DVD players usually have S/P-DIF out so that'll go to your AVR and the HDMI can go to the display.
He's talking about dvd-a, not dvd-v. Hires formats like sacd and dvd-a require hdmi input/output due to copy control. They will not transmit over spdif. However, sacd contains redbook as well, which WILL play fine on any cd player, but at 44.1/16. DVD-A discs can contain dvd-v content but again, it is not required and will only play back at 48/16 over spdif. So it really defeats the purpose of spending such a large amount of money on a hires player when you can't access the hires content. Of course the merits (or lack thereof) of high resolution audio are discussed elsewhere.
I suggest the OP splurge for a modern AVR that DOES have HDMI inputs.
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I want efficient class D to stay as green as possible.
Paypal donations are welcome, I'd like at least something on the level of what I have, maybe a Pioneer SC65. I want efficient class D to stay as green as possible.
Firewire, 1394, ilink, as I understand it will carry the full DSD signal from a SACD drive.
Plain DVD is not an issue, BluRay is, SACD is.
The point that seems to continue to be missed is that I "don't know" what these devices are capable of, and seek to find that out prior to making any choices.
I didn't say anything about DVD-V?
You keep saying 'all dvd players support spdif'. Those dvd players only play back dvd-v. dvd-a requires a dedicated player in order to play back the hi res format on them, and it requires hdmi. They won't even play back the higher resolution audio through analog stereo connections.
I stand corrected, they WILL play back through analog outputs, but not spdif, which you kept mentioning. But the unit the OP is looking at has no analog outputs, ie, if he wants hi res audio, it's a new receiver with hdmi or a hi res player with analog outputs. Talking of bypassing the copyright encryption using some 'magic box' i believe is against TOS.
Talking of bypassing the copyright encryption using some 'magic box' i believe is against TOS.
This is correct. I haven’t been able to decide whether anything here requires moderation as I haven’t seen a clear explanation of what the OP wants, but the term “de-embedder” sounds as though it might be problematic.
Atlona, no plans to buy this specific overpriced device, only mentioned as generic example of the type of device, with the idea of using the BDP62 with existing Sony spdif input AVR. If a similar device around half the price was able to output the DSD over HDMI information as DTS over spdif it would solve most existing issues.
Quote from: MikeFord on 30 April, 2013, 04:51:00 AMAtlona, no plans to buy this specific overpriced device, only mentioned as generic example of the type of device, with the idea of using the BDP62 with existing Sony spdif input AVR. If a similar device around half the price was able to output the DSD over HDMI information as DTS over spdif it would solve most existing issues.Emphasis mine. What you are looking for is not a audio spitter/decoder, but a standalone transcoding box. Something that will transcode DSD or multi-channel PCM to DTS. I can say with 99.9% certainty that such a device does not exist. If it did exist it would be way more expensive than the Atlona box as there would be a lot more processing involved. Audiophiles would be up in arms about something that "reduced"* the quality of DSD to lossy DTS.I see that you are focusing on getting DSD working over HDMI. My advice is to ignore that and just make sure your player decodes DSD to PCM properly. While there are a few devices that support DSD over HDMI, it is very uncommon. A quick check shows that none of Pionner's, Yamaha's or even Sony's current top end receivers support DSD over HDMI. The BDP62 can output bit-streamed DSD or 5.1 PCM for SACD, so just use the latter. To make it clear, even if you had the Pioneer BDP62 and the Pioneer Elite SC-68 you could not do DSD over HDMI, you would have to do 5.1 PCM. * I'm making no audibility claims on this transcode, just that it is lossless-> lossy.